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- From: drizzit@eskimo.com (G. Baldwin)
- Subject: Re: Why are europeans dumb enough to buy amigas?
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- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:58:55 GMT
-
- Zilch (zilch@flatearth.xs4all.nl) wrote:
- : On Tue, 02 Apr 1996 10:22:42 -0800, robert loss
- : <rlossrd@cc.curtin.edu.au> wrote:
-
- : > I use Pentium P6's at Uni with all the fruit, with Windows 95, on 17inch, 64
- : >bit wide display cards, and I must say that they are powerful. Windows 95
- : >is HUGE.
-
- : You'll be even more horrified when you see the real biggies like OS/2,
- : Windows NT or just about any UNIX version I can think of. Modern
- : operating systems are big. The Amiga OS would also grow in size as it
- : grows in functionality. All those help systems, screen, hundreds of
- : screen, printer and other device drivers, network functionality,
- : guided tours, sample animations, small applications like terminal
- : programs, media players, etc. take space.
-
- You are right. Operating systems and their support software takes space.
- But some Amiga owners think that if your OS takes more than 6 DD floppies
- than its big and bulky. They think that if they don't need it, then
- nobody else in the world does. It really makes me sad to see how small
- and closed some people are trying to make the Amiga.
-
-
- : > But I prefer to do all my work on the Amiga because it still
- : >runs faster than those Pentiums. For example, I created an animation in
- : >Corel Draw 6.0's 3d renderer, and rendered a postage stamp video of it.
- : >Probably about 200x200. After 12 hours it still had not completed (100
- : >frames). On Imagine 3.0 (which I got of the cover of a magazine for $10
- : >Aussy) I rendered a 780x512x256 colour 50 frame animation and it took 38
- : >hours. Now with all the P6's power I would have figured it would be
- : >quicker, but then again it was inside Windows 95.
-
- : Next time please don't compare apples with oranges. If a program like
- : Corel 3D Renderer is slow in Win95 that doesn't mean doesn't mean that
- : the OS slows it down, it just means that that Corel program was a slug
- : to begin with. Try running the Windows versions of Imagine, Lightwave,
- : Caligari/Truespace on that same P6 machine and then compare it with
- : your accelerated 1200 ...
-
- Comparing Lightwave for the Amiga with Lightwave on the PC is like
- comparing Washington Red Delicious Apples to Granny Smith Apples. The
- AmigaOS version of Lightwave has been fine tuned for the Amiga line
- running a 68040 CPU/FPU. The PC version right now stands as a fairly
- generic port, and its math functions haven't been totally fine tuned yet.
- That WILL come in time. And further, LW for the PC makes great use of
- Windows' array of high level APIs. The Amiga version of LW has to include
- the code itself (which may or may not be the best it could be).
-
- : >The ONLY gripe I have
- : >with Amiga's is they don't come standard with High Density floppies. Very
- : >annoying when I can't afford to buy a HD drive. But thems the breaks...
-
- : A while back I heard they stopped making those Amiga compatible
- : HD-drives. I guess they'll become even more expensive now. Just
- : another example of the braindead engineering decisions Commodore made.
- : It would have been a lot easier on Amiga owners if they could just buy
- : standard PC compatible HD drives and VGA monitors off the shelves
- : instead of hunting down expensive HD drives or 15 Khz monitors.
-
- I don't understand why people have this mind-set that having a HD floppy
- drive means life or death for the Amiga. Last time I checked, there were
- MANY other problems with the platform that needed attention. You
- shouldn't even be using a floppy drive. You should be using a hard drive.
- Hell, you can get 1 GIGABYTE drives for $199.
-
- The fact that the OS is still so tied to 10 year old custom hardware
- comes to mind. If it weren't for this, we could just use a generic
- floppy controller. Much cheaper, much faster, much higher availabilty.
- But with a generic floppy controller, we couldn't run all of our demos
- and games that use special hardware dependant trackloaders...
-
- As for the VGA monitor problem, that is a problem with both the hardware
- and software. The hardware problem comes to mind because Commodore did
- not make the AGA chipset with an internal Display enhancer. We wouldn't
- need such a device if software designers wouldn't base their timing on
- screen raster time.
-
- Alas, I could go on for hours but you get my point.
-
-
- : Ruud
- : ==
- : This signature is for rent - Email or fax me for details ]
- : Ruud van de Kruisweg - The Flat Earth Company - kruisweg@flatearth.xs4all.nl
-
- Greg Baldwin (drizzit@eskimo.com)
- Amiga junkie and user since 1987 Computer Science & DTV Student
- Commodore64 fan since about 1983 http://www.eskimo.com/~drizzit
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